Nywikiconf Wales Keynote on Jul 25th, 2009 :: 0:34:56 to 0:35:43
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0:34:26 to 0:37:03( Edit History Discussion )
Title: Jimmy Wales

A question about students editing Wikipedia for a course grade. Background info.

George Chriss

0:34:27 to 0:34:56( Edit History Discussion )

George Chriss: Jimmy Wales: Camera guy.

On a related question—
Audience member: What's your name?

My name is George Chriss, User:GChriss, of The Pennsylvania State University.  Some of the librarians and course designers there are talking very seriously about assigning editing Wikipedia for a course grade in courses that have several hundred students each.  My first question is: is that a good thing and how do we handle that?  How do we suggest metrics for them to grade on (like working with longstanding editors)?

0:34:56 to 0:35:43( Edit History Discussion )

Wales: It's a tricky thing to be sure, because we had some really bad and some really good experiences around that.  I remember many years ago somebody at Dartmouth assigned their students to write about things at Dartmouth and they had no instruction and no real preparation for the task, and so suddenly there were a bunch of articles about a bus stop, a garbage can, at Dartmuth, and then this was noticed by the community and basically all of them—even some that were good, reasonable articles about things like famous building there, whatever—they all got deleted because the whole thing was kind of annoying.  That wasn't a good experience for the students.  The one thing they learned was that you can't write about garbage cans in Wikipedia—unless there's third-party reliable sources

0:35:43 to 0:35:54( Edit History Discussion )

Laurence Parry: We do have an article about teapots.  It's the [ubiquitous] computer-generated teapots.
Wales: Ah, very good.

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Keynote: Jimmy Wales

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