Kaltura Meetup on Nov 10th, 2009 :: 0:58:08 to 1:02:28
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A give–and–take discussion about technology relating to open video.

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Ben Moskowitz: So really quickly, I want to make some examples of what I mean by open video, to fill–it–in a little bit. So George, I think what you're doing is like a perfect example of what the future of video should look like. You've talked a little bit about what OpenMeetings.org does, but do you want to give the pitch again, like "how's does it work?" and "what makes it unique?"

George Chriss: Sure, let me come up front.
Leah Belsky: Are you going to take yourself off-camera?
GC: I never do…

So, um, yeah. Two–three years ago I wouldn't have been able to tell you that my future has a lot to do with video; at the time, [I was] just working with open technologies, [focusing on] community ethics that were touched on here. That said, video is poised for explosive growth in the future, and it does matter how that works both on technical, legal, and social levels. The Open Video Conference I think was very high–impact in terms of starting conversations that are needed to make this actually happen. At the time, one week prior to that conference I actually started the OpenMeetings.org website on the basis that, working on a volunteer basis, I had recorded a whole bunch of meetings for extending conversations that are in those meetings to other communities. (Actually the same community too, because at Penn State it's very unique in the sense that you have an organizational turnover every 4-5 years – 25% of the brightest and most experienced people leave the organization, so it's very punishing for any sort of organizational memory.) That's how at least I got started, and from there I try to do this as quickly as I can, both helping facilitate or contribute in some way to the technical levels, making it really easy to work with open formats and actually get people to use it. You can shoot all the video footage in the world, but unless you actually make it compelling it doesn't really count. That is at least one of the challenges.

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The other challenge is, "how do you get these communities that haven't talked to each other yet, because everyone's so new, talking to each other?" In that sense it's been very exciting to just show up to conferences across a whole broad range of topics of societal interest and to start this, and to start it in-earnest. The Open Video Conference was the first conference I showed up to (I had one camera there)—unfortunately, there's still a video backlog, so if you are interested in volunteering some of your time I'd be happy to give you lots of video to edit—the 2009 NYC Wiki Conference (Wikipedia/Wikimania, the people that lead those communities, that was here in New York City), then also other conferences, one from a new, non-profit organization called the Open Forum Foundation, they had a whole conference about Congress and it's geared towards essentially re-engineering the basic constituent–representative relationship and deploying web 2.0 technologies into the actual legislative process, to make government work better than it does now (across a whole range of different offices and organizations).

Ben Moskowitz: So OpenMeetings.org uses the MetaVidWiki code base, right?

George Chriss: Yes; one more conference then I'll wrap that up. Then also PublicMediaCamp down in DC, and that's geared towards discussing how non-profit, PBS–style radio stations and media stations will actually interact with this, because they will be one of the first ones active in this space. They have their own challenges, financially or otherwise. There's a lot of interest there.

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George Chriss: To answer the original question, to come full–loop, of what I do: I record these meetings, edit them professionally, that goes to Ogg Theora, which is a new video format, which the open standard for open video at this point in terms of openness. Audience member: What is it?
George Chriss: Ogg Theora. T-H…
Audience: Ogg?
George Chriss: Theora.
Audience: Ogg Theora? I know Ogg, but I've never heard of Ogg Theora.
George Chriss: Ogg Vorbis is the audio equivalent, Theora is the video compliment. That's new, that was one of the premises of the Open Video Conference.

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Anyway, so from there it's brought into this wiki, it is a video wiki, in that all the meetings are available and they playback [in-browser]. The transcripts don't yet exist, and so the challenge is to make the transcripts exist, and that's exactly what OpenMeetings.org is. It's just about growing that project and broadening the conversations.

Ben Moskowitz: I would say that OpenMeetings.org and MetaVid are two really good examples of websites that are lighthousing what you can do with video. In both cases, you have just a wealth of content, hours–and–hours–and–hours of footage, and if there're accompanying transcripts, instead of having to watch 20-40 hrs. of content until you find out what the most interesting things are, you can search the transcripts and find that "oh, this thing that I'm really interested in came in at 13:15" and you can jump to that part or reference that part or just pull that part out if your're interested in in ways that you couldn't if the video was just being served in a black box, and you didn't have all these cool, extensible web 2.0 things attached to them.

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Audience: I was doing a lot of research working in a library for a couple of years, so that you're saying that in the future, we could be instead of "reading through magazines," actually searching right to media/video content? George Chriss: That's possible now, today. Ben Moskowitz: If that's the thing that you're interested in, I would check out MetaVid.org [and Kaltura.org].

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